[Babase] Birth/Statdate/Census

Catherine Markham babase@www.eco.princeton.edu
Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:48:51 -0400


Sorry, I still don't get it.  An abort is obvious - birth equals 
statdate and there are no rows in census.  And I get the point about 
statdate being the same as the last census date.  But I still can't 
think of a case where we would have a live birth entered in biograph and 
nothing in census.  I'll ask you about it at the Friday meeting - maybe 
I've missed a change to the demography update procedures.


Karl O. Pinc wrote:

>
> On 04/07/2005 08:25:24 AM, Catherine Markham wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I thought maybe I just wasn't thinking straight yesterday, but this  
>> one is still confusing me this morning.  When would we have a case  
>> where a living animal has a statdate equal to birth?  The sentence  
>> makes more sense to me if you take out the word "live."
>
>
> It happens pretty much only when the animal is born.  It will probably
> affect you when you enter a newborn.
>
>> Perhaps I'm missing the context for this . . . is this change follow- 
>> up on a discussion you guys have been having at Duke?  I didn't see  
>> anything with a similar heading in the BaBase archives.
>
>
> We talked about it at Princeton.  Statdate = last census when
> your alive implies Birth = Statdate when no censuses unless you're  dead.
>
>>
>> Catherine
>>
>> Karl O. Pinc wrote:
>>
>>> We talked about this when we decided to have statdate
>>> be the last censused date.
>>>
>>> I've added this sentence to the biograph description:
>>>
>>>
>>> Live animals that have no associated CENSUS rows that
>>> place the individual in a group must have a Statdate
>>> equal to their Birth date.
>>>
>>> Karl <kop@meme.com>
>>> Free Software:  "You don't pay back, you pay forward."
>>>                 -- Robert A. Heinlein
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Catherine Markham
>> Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
>> Princeton University
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> Karl <kop@meme.com>
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Catherine Markham
Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
Princeton University
Phone: (609) 258-6898 
Fax: (609) 258-2712