[Babase] Male immigrant questions for Susan

Catherine Markham babase@www.eco.princeton.edu
Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:20:35 -0400


Thanks, Susan - I just updated SOO's BIOGRAPH record with the birth date 
and bstatus.

Catherine

Susan Alberts wrote:
>> Hi Susan,
>>
>> I have a few questions for you regarding two new immigrant males seen 
>> in Viola's group last March.  On 22 March 2005, a young adult male and 
>> a young juvenile male were censused as present in the group.  The 
>> young adult male was not seen again and was never named. The young 
>> juvenile male stayed with Viola's group through early April and was 
>> later named Sooty.
>>
>> The field demography note for Viola's group during this time period read:
>>
>> 22 March 2005: Wabash and a young adult male who is a hybrid are in 
>> Viola's group today.  The young adult male is very shy and he is 
>> keeping to a distance from the rest of the group but I'm sure it was 
>> because of observers.  With him was a young juvenile male the size of 
>> EGO and also very shy and following that young adult male wherever he 
>> went.  He is probably also from Ositeti and left the group to follow 
>> the young male.  He is approximately 3 1/2 years old.  We will give 
>> them names if they stay.
>>
>> 25 March 2005: Wabash and the adult male seen on the 22nd of March 05 
>> are not with Viola's group today... Also the juvenile male is still 
>> present.
>>
>> 28 March 2005: We named the juvenile male in Viola's group Sooty (SOO).
>>
>> Since the young adult male was never named, I couldn't think of a way 
>> include him in the Babase Census and Members tables for the group that 
>> day.  Is that ok?
> 
> 
> 
> Right, he can't be included even via a demog note.
> 
>>
>> Also, an official age estimate was never done on SOO.  The only age 
>> info we have for him comes from the first field demography note quoted 
>> above - the team confirmed that no other age info was collected.  
>> Jeanne suggested I check the reference to EGO's age... EGO was born 25 
>> December 2001 (bstatus = 0), so EGO's age in March 2005 is 
>> approximately 3 1/4 years.  I thought this coincided well with the 
>> team's estimate that SOO is about 3 1/2 years.
> 
> 
> 
> For juveniles, we don't do age estimates the same way we do with adults 
> -- we don't fill out that form. Instead we age them by comparison with 
> known-age juv males in the study population, as they did here.
> 
>>
>> Do you agree that I should give SOO a birth date of 21 September 2001 
>> (making him 3 1/2 years old on 22 March 2005)?
> 
> 
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> Also, what bstatus is appropriate?
> 
> 
> Give it a 1. Age estimates by comparison with known juvs are pretty 
> good, will generally be to within a year unless they make a specific 
> note about it.
> 
> Susan