[Babase] ranks data -- conference needed?
Leah Gerber
babase@www.eco.princeton.edu
Mon, 7 Feb 2005 16:06:23 -0500
Hello, I am not sure where the error with DHO came from. It seems to be a
different category of error than the rank errors. However, I am not certain
the ranks for DHO are fine, so there may be a rank problem as well. I can't
remember off the top of my head.
Leah
Quoting Susan Alberts <alberts@duke.edu>:
> Thanks Daphne, this is very helpful and makes sense of what little I
> knew as well.
>
> Regarding DHO, on looking at Leah's note again I am not sure where
> the problem came from but it is NOT with ranks per se (Leah, please
> confirm). DHO has rankgrp 1.10, rnkdate = 01/08/97, birthdate=
> 18/11/2003. I don't know if this is a holdover of the name change or
> not. Sorry about the confusion.
>
> I am sort of feeling that it wold be helfpul to have a conference
> call about this, between me Leah Jeanne and Catherine. I need a bit
> of help before seeing the way clear to going ahead. After Leah gets
> back, let's talk about it, OK with everyone?
>
> Susan
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I thought I'd chime in here since I can maybe shed some light on
> >some of these issues with male ranks. I'll respond to Susan's
> >second email separately.
> >
> >
> >> Over the past 18 months or so I have been sending data to Daphne
> >> that
> >> is meant to be entered in the ranks file of babase (it is data on
> >> male ranks). This is combination of actual male rankings (e.g. for
> >> 2001 and 2002) and corrections of existing ranks. There are a
> >> number
> >> of these files, which Daphne (mostly) kept good track of but never
> >> entered, presumably because she did not have time.
> >
> >
> >Yes, the main reason the corrections and new ranks didn't get
> >entered was that I didn't have time - it was on my list of things to
> >do before I left, and unfortunately it was one of the things I just
> >didn't get to. I tried to organize it all as best I could for
> >Catherine.
> >
> >Also, I never really felt great about our tentative solution to the
> >problem of how to get the new ranks into the Ranks table. We talked
> >about doing the new adult male ranks manually, since there is
> >currently no way to get them in using Ranker (it will of course be
> >possible when the new male maturation tables are in there and the
> >"ranked by" dates are entered). But using what ranktype? Susan had
> >suggested using ALL, even though it would just be for adult males.
> >Using ranktype ADM (adult males) could be weird, since eventually we
> >will be generating that ranktype in a different way (using Ranker).
> >Neither seemed great to me, but I haven't thought of a better
> >solution. It sounds like you're still planning to go ahead with the
> >manual entry (using ranktype ALL?).
> >
> >That makes me think, though, that if you pushed to get the "ranked
> >by" dates into the new table (if the table exists yet), you could do
> >the adult male ranks properly using Ranker, with ranktype ADM. Just
> >a thought - I know you want them in there soon.
> >
> >Also, I did start to address at some point some of the corrections
> >that Susan and Karen sent me, and I encountered some problems with
> >them. I can't remember exactly what they were at this point, but I
> >think it had to do with individuals not being in the corrections
> >list that were actually in the group at the time, or something like
> >that. It was at a time when Susan wasn't around to ask, and I think
> >it got put back on the back burner. Just something for Leah to be
> >aware of as she's dealing with the corrections.
> >
> >OK, more soon.
> >Daphne
> >
> >
> >
> >
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