We need vocabulary -- Was: Re: [Babase] Ranker Meeting

Susan Alberts alberts at duke.edu
Wed Apr 25 14:51:20 EDT 2007


I also like "Babase login", "Unix login" and "Wiki Login". Thanks Lacey.
Susan

On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:36 PM, Tyler Brock wrote:

> I agree. This seems good except for in my paper I use database  
> login and Babase login interchangeably so we will stick with your  
> recommendation in all documentation.
>
> -Tyler
>
> On Apr 25, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Lacey Maryott wrote:
>
>> I think that "Babase Login" "Unix Login" and "Wiki Login" All seem  
>> appropriate.  They are all fairly discrete in my opinion.  There's  
>> my input :)
>>
>>
>> Lacey
>>
>> Karl O. Pinc wrote:
>>>
>>> On 04/25/2007 08:03:51 AM, Lacey Maryott wrote:
>>>
>>>> *The interface requires a log in and that log in will be the  
>>>> same as your PPA login.
>>>
>>> A note on vocabularly, because getting the terms right will help
>>> everybody understand how things work.  If we get the words
>>> wrong confusion will forever reign and there will be much
>>> wailing and gnashing of teeth.  :-)
>>>
>>> Both PPA and the ranker, and anything else that gets access to
>>> the database, require a "database login".  If we want we
>>> can call it a postgres (or postgresql) login, because that's
>>> the database software.  Or, we can call it a Babase login.
>>>
>>> Let's pick a consistent name and use that everywhere.
>>> I've been using "database login", but one of the others
>>> might make more sense to people.  I'd shy away from
>>> "PPA login" because it's not something that's PPA specific.
>>>
>>> The other login that we have get's ssh access to papio.
>>> I've been calling this a "Unix login".  We could call it
>>> a papio login.  It turns out that this same username/password
>>> pair also grants the people at Duke access to other
>>> biology related computers, so I'm sure there's a name
>>> for it (like "biology login"?) used by Duke.  However
>>> Duke's term is associated with access that we don't normally have
>>> so I don't think we want to use Duke's term.
>>>
>>> The "Unix login" grants access to the VPN.  It'll be
>>> necessary to start the VPN (when not at Duke) to run
>>> the ranker program.  When using the ranker
>>> the Unix login turns on the VPN, which gets you to papio,
>>> the database login then gets you to the database.
>>>
>>> Most Babase user's don't need a Unix login because they
>>> get to papio over the web.  The ranker program talks
>>> directly to the database, on papio, and so needs
>>> permissions to get through Duke's firewalls to papio.
>>> The VPN provides this access.
>>>
>>> That's the story.  Please chime in and let's pick some
>>> vocabulary for the two kinds of logins.
>>>
>>> When we pick something could somebody write up the
>>> results on the wiki?  (Which reminds me, there's
>>> also a wiki username/password, so your sophisticated
>>> Babase user will have 3 logins.  I'm sure I could
>>> make the wiki use the database login, but it's
>>> almost surely not worth messing with.  Oh yeah.
>>> There's also the mailing list username (aka email address)
>>> and password.  But nobody really ever uses that
>>> except to sign up or un-sign up.
>>> Except for the mailing list _administrator_ username
>>> and password....  *sigh*)
>>>
>>> Karl <kop at meme.com>
>>> Free Software:  "You don't pay back, you pay forward."
>>>                  -- Robert A. Heinlein
>>>
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>>
>> -- 
>> Lacey Maryott
>> Department of Biology
>> Duke University
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>> Lacey.Maryott at duke.edu
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>
> -Tyler
>
> Tyler J. Brock
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