[Babase] Statdate problem for End June 2009
Lacey Roerish
lroerish4 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 30 14:20:12 EDT 2009
I gotcha, I see she didn't even complete an incomplete census that day, it
looks like she just went to the group to check on the consorting pair.
Susan, do you think it is safe to just hold back this one consort and hope I
remember to enter it during the 09B update... is it worth just creating a
demog note for the 2 individuals Courtney recorded as having consorted that
day, so that I Can add it now?
What is your intuition?
Lacey
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Niki Learn <nlearn at princeton.edu> wrote:
> Right, well, that’s a totally random piece of data – one consort on a
> noncensus day when no other data was collected… Unless we wanted to get
> really freaky and enter the first census day for July now (which sounds like
> trouble), I think you’re just going to have to save that one for 09b.
>
>
>
> 29 June for Weaver’s is in.
>
>
>
> *From:* babase-bounces at eeblistserv.Princeton.EDU [mailto:
> babase-bounces at eeblistserv.Princeton.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Lacey Roerish
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2009 1:50 PM
>
> *To:* The Baboon Database Project
> *Subject:* Re: [Babase] Statdate problem for End June 2009
>
>
>
> There is consort data for June 30, which is why I am getting an error in
> Linda's.
>
> Thanks!
> Lacey
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Niki Learn <nlearn at princeton.edu> wrote:
>
> Linda’s should be fine. The last incomplete census was June 27 and the
> last team census was June 29…. I don’t see any agonism data for after that
> date.
>
>
>
> Getting ready to upload Weaver’s now.
>
>
>
> *From:* babase-bounces at eeblistserv.Princeton.EDU [mailto:
> babase-bounces at eeblistserv.Princeton.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Lacey Roerish
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2009 1:13 PM
>
>
> *To:* The Baboon Database Project
> *Subject:* Re: [Babase] Statdate problem for End June 2009
>
>
>
> It looks like Weaver's and Linda's. Everyone elses data went in fine! :-D
>
> You probably should log in as admin when trying to create tables in
> pending. As for the 'types' of data, You might look on the ppa website
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/interactive/bookindex.html I only
> use a couple of different types because I don't know what the rest of them
> mean.
> I mostly use character, char var, numeric, date, time without timezone as
> they are the only ones I understand :)
>
> Thanks again
> Lacey
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Niki Learn <nlearn at princeton.edu> wrote:
>
> No, it won’t take me long at all. I can do it after lunch. Is Weaver’s
> the only group affected?
>
>
>
> I got stuck trying to create wounds tables in pending anyway. Do I need to
> log in as administrator to make those or something? Getting weird errors.
> Also, is there a list somewhere of what all these options in the type column
> are??? I couldn’t find one and many are not self explanatory.
>
>
>
> *From:* babase-bounces at eeblistserv.Princeton.EDU [mailto:
> babase-bounces at eeblistserv.Princeton.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Lacey Roerish
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2009 12:56 PM
>
>
> *To:* The Baboon Database Project
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Babase] Statdate problem for End June 2009
>
>
>
> Animals who would be included in her census would be the only animals
> affected by this anyway as Courtney won't know them to collect data on them.
> So as long as the statdates are updated for those animals who she would be
> collecting data on, everyone would be covered.
>
> This is likely to only occur on this update, and potentially 10B as I think
> Courtney will be back in kenya then. So it wouldn't be a recurring problem.
>
> It would also mean just holding back one or two lines of data which can
> very easily get lost, unlike cycles, which are bigger events, which can't
> and won't be lost.
>
> It it looks like something that you just won't have time to do by Tues,
> does it make more sense for me to enter these few demog notes?
>
> Thanks
> Lacey
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Niki Learn <nlearn at princeton.edu> wrote:
>
> Hmm… When we have any kind of cycling (example a cycle has begun in June
> or December but has not been completed by the last census day and so is left
> dangling) or reproductive data (example a birth estimated to be at the end
> of June but after the last census date) that occurs at the end of an update
> period we hold it over for the next update.
>
>
>
> I can see why we might not want to do that for agonisms in December
> (although you guys do male agonisms for the first half of the year
> separately?) since I guess we’d want them included in the 09b update in
> order to count them when doing the ranks. Does it matter for June? Will
> you do the 09a male agonisms before the 09b update?
>
>
>
> I *can* add a census column for 6/29 BUT the animals that Courtney did not
> census (mostly juveniles) would still not have a change in statdate since
> they would still get no census record for that day. I guess for male ranks
> only the adult male interactions matter though so it would be okay if only
> the adults were marked through the 29th?
>
>
>
> Niki
>
>
>
> *From:* babase-bounces at eeblistserv.Princeton.EDU [mailto:
> babase-bounces at eeblistserv.Princeton.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Lacey Roerish
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2009 12:34 PM
> *To:* The Baboon Database Project
> *Subject:* [Babase] Statdate problem for End June 2009
>
>
>
> Hi All!
>
> I am working on the uploads of data and have found june to be a bit
> tricky. Since Courtney is often in the field collecting data on 'last days'
> when the team isn't doing a complete census, the 'censored' statdate of
> individuals in Weaver's group is 6-27, however courtney has (at least)
> agonism data for animals on 6/29.
>
> Is the best solution here to add demog notes? It looks like Courtney did a
> partial census that day. I know we set up a rule that we wouldn't enter her
> partial censuses unless a demographic change occured.. but maybe we should
> add to this these special june and december cases where we are likely to
> have interaction data corresponding with her partial census. If we don't
> use that partial census, the animal's statdate is before its final
> interactions for the 6 month update period.
>
> Let me know if I need to do anything on my end to make this happen so I can
> get these data in.
>
> Thanks
> Lacey
>
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Alberts Lab
Department of Biology
Duke University
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Lacey.Maryott at duke.edu
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