[Babase] For Jeanne -- AMO and BIL

Susan Alberts alberts at duke.edu
Thu Jul 17 11:10:50 EDT 2008


Hi Jeanne,

There is a back and forth about AMO and BIL and I realized that you  
might not be attending closely. We need your input.

AMO immigrated into a study group in about 2004 or so. The team and I  
both agreed when he appeared that he looked like a "B" family from  
Lodge, and he was totally habituated as well, suggesting Lodge group  
or other garbage group origin. We genotyped him and did a parentage  
analysis and confirmed that the DNA is consistent with his mother  
being BETTY and his father NACHOS.

BET has two sons that were born within a few months of AMO's age  
estimate. BOWL was born Jan 94, BILLY was born Feb 95. AMOK's age  
estimate was May 04. This puts him a bit closer to BOWL, but the team  
was emphatic that they know/knew BOWL and that AMOK was not Bowl.  
They do not know BILLY and felt that AMOK could be BILLY. BET had  
another pregnancy that was due Feb 96 but we know nothing about the  
outcome of that one and that would be 20 months after AMOK's age  
estimate.

Overall the evidence suggests that AMOK = BILLY.

Question is, how do we handle it in biograph. Lacey and I thought we  
would keep two lines, one for AMO and one for BIL, and have BIL's  
info (birthdate, pid, matgrp, etc) attached to AMOK. Karl doesn't  
like this for obvious reasons. He suggests instead that we either  
delete one of these names from the database (presumably BILLY, for  
whom we have less data) and replace the name everywhere, or we create  
an "alternate names" table that indicates AMO is probably BIL. We are  
not totally comfortable with the first option because of the lack of  
100% certainty. If you can take a look at the emails that have come  
through and give us your thoughts, we would appreciate it. At the  
moment, the only place that all this information about AMO and BIL  
lives is in our notes attached to the paternity spreadsheet and my  
head, and this needs to change.

Thanks,
Susan

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Susan Alberts, Dept. Biology, Duke University, Durham NC 27708. Phone  
919-660-7272, Fax 919-660-7293. alberts at duke.edu





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