[Babase] [Fwd: Re: OFR error 9 feb]

kfenn kfenn at princeton.edu
Tue Jan 27 11:08:04 EST 2009


Hi all,

I just mentioned to Jeanne that this OFR issue had not been resolved 
(see below).  She feels the psion sample row should be deleted.  If 
Susan can give the final OK on this, Lacey can make the change and put 
this to rest.

Thanks,
Tabby

Karl O. Pinc wrote:
>
> On 12/10/2008 08:55:35 AM, Lacey Maryott wrote:
>> Hey Tabby,
>>
>>  I'm sending this to the babase list because I'm honestly not sure if 
>> it can just be deleted.  I'm assuming it can.   Karl, is there a 
>> validation rule that is creating this error? Make sense that there 
>> would be.  If I can get the all clear from the powers that be (Susan, 
>> Karl, Jeanne if you are following this) I will go ahead and just 
>> delete these since I know there is no data other than that she was 
>> out of sight.
>>
>> Lacey
>
> (FYI This quoting style make it hard to tell who said what.)
>
>>
>> Thanks for the lookup, Lacey.
>> Are you allowed to delete the sample?  I can't update the statdate to 
>> her true deathdate because the validation rules are telling me that 
>> she can't be recorded as dead the same day she has a row in 
>> SAMPLES....?  Probably a new (and rare) problem with the validation 
>> rules.
>>
>>
>> Tabby
>>
>> Lacey Maryott wrote:
>>> Hey  Tabby,
>>>
>>>   I just looked at this, and OFR was out of site for the whole 
>>> sample on 9 Feb. That just means they had her picked to sample that 
>>> day, but when she wasn't there, they just went through her 10 
>>> minutes entering that she was out of site, presumably incase by 
>>> chance she rejoined the group. Hope this helps!
>>>
>>> Lacey
>>>
>>> kfenn wrote:
>>>> Hi Lacey,
>>>>
>>>> I'm not even going to attempt to explain how I found this screwy 
>>>> thing, but I need your help to correct it so I can update the 
>>>> statdate.
>>>>
>>>> OFR (Omo's) has a demog note for 9 Feb 2008 that says she was not 
>>>> found during the census.  However, she has row in SAMPLES for this 
>>>> date (it didn't throw an error for you because I put the demog note 
>>>> in so Babase assumed she was really in the census that day.).
>
> Yes, putting a demog note in for an individual makes them present
> on that day.  Right now there is no provision for having
> a demography note for an absent individual.  If we
> want to do that I could make some changes.
>
> One way around this is to mark them absent (A) in
> CENSUS on that day, but _not_ mark the census row
> CEN column TRUE, so it'd be a census row that's
> _not_ there because of a census.  Right now,
> when a demography note goes in and there's an
> absence recorded in census, the demography note
> changes the absence to a D, indicating presence
> due to demography note.  It could check the CEN
> column and only make the change when the CENSUS
> row was input as part of a census.  That way you
> could manually put an 'A' in and it would "stick"
> when you put a demography note in.  (We'd also
> have to have the manual "A" automatically removed
> when the demography note was removed -- I think.)
>
>>>>
>>>> Can you check on this and let me know what we ought to do?  
>>>> Deleting the SAMPLES row would make sense it unless OFR was 
>>>> actually there that day.  In that caseI need to change the census 
>>>> from absent to present.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tabby
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Tabby Fenn
>> Research Assistant
>>
>> Dept of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
>> 401 Guyot Hall
>> Princeton University
>> Princeton, NJ  08544
>>
>> 609 258-6898 (Ph)
>> 609 258-2712 (Fx)
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Lacey Maryott
>> Alberts Lab
>> Department of Biology
>> Duke University
>> ph: 919-660-7306
>> fax: 919-660-7293
>> Lacey.Maryott at duke.edu
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>
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Tabby Fenn
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Princeton University
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