[Babase] errors

Stephanie Combes babase@www.eco.princeton.edu
Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:02:40 -0400


also - what to do about immigrant males with no birth date estimates.

--On Tuesday, July 13, 2004 3:12 PM -0400 Jeanne Altmann 
<altj@princeton.edu> wrote:

> hi,
> for tomorrow:
> --status of speedup
> --conversion of other tables?
> --changing repstat table?
> other?
> j
>
> At 11:17 AM 7/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> On 2004.07.12 09:06 Jeanne Altmann wrote:
>>> Thanks Steph,
>>> just a few notes at this point:
>>> At 05:38 PM 7/9/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>>>> Hi again everyone,
>>>> (Susan - I'm copying you on this, but if you don't want all of this
>>>> info  in the future, let me know).
>>>>
>>>>  I've looked through some of the errors (those that are listed on the
>>>> first 40 pages or so).  Here's a list of ones that we need to discuss
>>>> or that make me go "hmmm".  Email input is fine, or note whether
>>>> certain ones need to be discussed on Wed.
>>>
>>>> 1) Biograph statdate can't be less than mature dates.  This happens
>>>> for  JUN and NIN.  We are changing this, correct? i.e. statdate won't
>>>> really  be the reference, but something that also checks their status
>>>> (alive or not).
>>> RIGHT, THAT WAS AGREED ON LAST WEEK
>>
>> Right. Havnen't changed the rule yet.
>>
>>>
>>>> 2) Rule violation: mature dates must be between 3 and 7 years of
>>>> birth.  This is violated for ALEX who matures around 7.5ish.  Leave
>>>> rule and  ignore Alex?
>>>
>>> SUSAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK?  ALEX IS A TOTAL OUTLIER, AND WE DON'T HAVE A
>>> GOOD BIRTHDATE FOR HIM AS HE WAS A JUVIE IMMIGRANT. COULD HE HAVE BEEN
>>> SO  MUCH YOUNGER THAN WE HAVE RECORDED?  DO WE WANT TO UP THIS TO  7.5?
>>> REMEMBER, WHATEVER AGE WE USE, THE PROGRAM WILL HOLD US TO IT, WE
>>> CAN'T DO A 'BYPASS', RIGHT?
>>
>> Right.
>>
>>>
>>>> 3) Cycles must be sequential for each female and the first seq for
>>>> each  female must be 1.  While these are sensible rules, it's messing
>>>> up on a  lot of females.  All of the females I checked (and I checked
>>>> most of  them) have seq's (in cycles) from 1 to whatever BUT there are
>>>> many  situations where their order in cycles goes something like
>>>> 2,3,4,1,5,6,etc.  The conversion program doesn't seem to like this.
>>>> Look at DAD or EST for examples, although there are others.
>>> KARL, WHAT IS THIS ABOUT?
>>
>> When one of the cycles won't go in due to an error, all the rest with
>> higher numbers won't go in either because that'd make a 'gap'.  Fix
>> the one that won't go in and these errors go away.
>>
>>>
>>>> 4)  cycle is not a conception and has no dates.  This is ok, right?
>>>> Apparently these are "fillers"? - because in some cases these lines
>>>> are  totally blank in cycles.  Of course, I am a little confused as to
>>>> why  there are totally blank lines in there in the first place.
>>>> help.
>>> WE NEED FOR INFO ON THIS
>>
>> We talked about this.  This is for pregnancy conception cycles.  I
>> thought I got the rule changed, but maybe I didn't or havn't installed
>> it yet. Been busy with speeding things up.  Can Steph take a look and see
>> if these are pregancy conception cycles?
>>
>>>
>>>> 5)biograph statdate can't be less than cycles tdate or ddate.
>>>> Similar to error 1 above.  again - status is being added as a
>>>> reference  correct?  of course, this particular kind of error did help
>>>> me catch one  female who apparently cycled after she died.  oops.
>>> RIGHT
>>
>> Right. See above.
>>
>>>
>>>> 6) sexskins dates overlap with the following cycles M date.  Yes, does
>>>> happen for LULU (see LUL seq 43).  help jeanne.  I'm thinking that the
>>>> M  date should have gone with the previous cycle? or is this rule not
>>>> quite  fine-tuned enough?
>>> I'M NOT CLEAR ON THIS
>>
>> Check to see if it's a data problem or a rule problem.
>>
>>>
>>>> 7) error: sexskins cid blah: maturedates.matured cannot be less than
>>>> sexskins.date.  OK, in theory this error makes sense to me.  But, the
>>>> female it's referring to matures well before the listed sexskin
>>>> dates.  So karl, where is it looking?  what's maturedates.matured?
>>> KARL?
>>
>> Maturedates is now on the MATURES table, not biograph.
>>
>> I think this rule is just wrong and it should be the other way around.
>> Right?
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> 8) cid on cyles - key referenced from sexskins not found in cycles.
>>>> scary message.  couldn't find source of error.  I'm still trying to
>>>> figure out which female this is referring to.
>>
>> Doesn't it give you the bad cid on sexskins in the message?  Very likely
>> this is a cycle row that didn't make it into the new database because of
>> another error.
>>
>>
>> Karl <kop@meme.com>
>> Free Software:  "You don't pay back, you pay forward."
>>                  -- Robert A. Heinlein
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