[Babase] More vocabularly: PPA, Posgres, Babase, etc.

Lacey Maryott lacey.maryott at duke.edu
Thu May 3 10:13:30 EDT 2007


I can get this put on the Wiki today. 

--Lacey

Susan Alberts wrote:
> Thanks Karl, I really like the idea of putting this vocabulary on the 
> wiki. Lacey can you do this? This was very helpful Karl, thanks for 
> continuing to educate us.
> S
>
> On May 2, 2007, at 4:34 PM, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
>
>>
>> On 05/02/2007 12:19:29 PM, kfenn wrote:
>>
>> There's been a lot of talk in the style of what's below, and the
>> vocabularly just isn't right.  (Tabby need not feel put-upon.)
>>
>> The basic problem is that PPA is being used for the entirity of
>> the new system.  It's like calling all the software on your
>> computer "Word".
>>
>> I've tended to use "papio" for the entirity of the new system.
>> I don't think this is necessarly best.  I'd like to use "Babase 2.0".
>>
>> So, the pieces would be:
>>
>> Babase 1.0/foxpro  --  The old system: it's programs and data,
>>     including foxpro.
>>
>> Babase 2.0  -- The new system: it's programs and data, including
>>     all the 3rd party software that makes it work.
>>
>> the database/Babase/the Babase data -- The data itself.
>>
>> Babase/the Babase programs -- The programs, database rules,
>>    documentation, and all other stuff we wrote.
>>
>> papio -- The computer hardware (and maybe everything on it.)
>>
>> Postgres/PostgreSQL/pg -- The database software  (sometimes also
>>   "the database" when it's clear in context we're talking software.)
>>
>> PPA/phpPgAdmin  -- The generic front end that allows access to a
>>   Postgres database from the web.
>>
>> After that there's some minor pieces:
>>
>> the browser/firefox -- the web browser
>>
>> SQL -- the language.  Entered and run in PPA/the browser.
>>
>> The ranker  --  Tyler's ranker program.
>>
>> The VPN/OpenVPN  -- The VPN software
>>
>> the wiki/the Babase wiki -- the wiki content.
>>
>> moinmoin -- the wiki software
>>
>> the web site/the Babase web site -- All the Babase stuff you can get to
>>    over the web.
>>
>> The web server/Apache  -- The program that serves up web pages,
>>   including the PPA pages, the wiki pages, the upcen and psionconvert
>>   programs, and the static documentation pages.
>>
>> Maybe this vocabularly can go on the wiki?
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>>
>> To re-word:
>>
>>> Once the above changes/fixes occur, we have one more speedbump with 
>>> FoxPro before we can move exclusively to PPA.
>>
>> Babase 2.0
>>
>>> The new files of "old"
>>> census data that Jen Foreman has entered is in dbf form.  Karl says 
>>> trying to do an upload of  this into PPA
>>
>> Postgres (via PPA and the upcen program, unless I write
>> some magic program)
>>
>>> is not going to be
>>> easy....the upload is best done in FoxPro.  I agree, but I can 
>>> forsee that this update may generate a substantial number of new 
>>> errors when we run through another conversion given that such a 
>>> large bulk of data is replacing old data.
>>> If we end up with a lot of new errors, Jeanne and Susan may need to 
>>> make a call on how to proceed with the 06B update (that is, whether 
>>> to use FoxPro or PPA
>>
>> Babase 2.0
>>
>>> , and how important this additional census data
>>> is versus getting the 06B update done before my maternity leave 
>>> starts).   Obviously, I can do the 06B update in FoxPro at any 
>>> time.  Right now we are having problems doing uploads to the views 
>>> in PPA,
>>
>> Postgres
>>
>>> and this is necessary for both the Duke and Princeton parts of the 
>>> demog update.   Karl is going to work on solving the problem this 
>>> week and we are all in charge of checking in with him about 
>>> progress... however the new census-related errors need to be fixed 
>>> in FoxPro before we can think about doing the demog update in PPA.
>>
>> (either "using PPA and the Babase programs" or "in Babase 2.0")
>>
>>
>> Karl <kop at meme.com <mailto:kop at meme.com>>
>> Free Software:  "You don't pay back, you pay forward."
>>                  -- Robert A. Heinlein
>>
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> Susan Alberts, Dept. Biology, Duke University, Durham NC 27708. Phone 
> 919-660-7272, Fax 919-660-7293. alberts at duke.edu <mailto:alberts at duke.edu>
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Lacey Maryott
Department of Biology
Duke University
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