[Babase] Statdate problem for End June 2009

Lacey Roerish lroerish4 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 30 12:56:21 EDT 2009


Animals who would be included in her census would be the only animals
affected by this anyway as Courtney won't know them to collect data on them.
So as long as the statdates are updated for those animals who she would be
collecting data on, everyone would be covered.

This is likely to only occur on this update, and potentially 10B as I think
Courtney will be back in kenya then.  So it wouldn't be a recurring problem.

It would also mean just holding back one or two lines of data which can very
easily get lost, unlike cycles, which are bigger events, which can't and
won't be lost.

It it looks like something that you just won't have time to do by Tues, does
it make more sense for me to enter these few demog notes?

Thanks
Lacey

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Niki Learn <nlearn at princeton.edu> wrote:

>  Hmm…  When we have any kind of cycling (example a cycle has begun in June
> or December but has not been completed by the last census day and so is left
> dangling) or reproductive data (example a birth estimated to be at the end
> of June but after the last census date) that occurs at the end of an update
> period we hold it over for the next update.
>
>
>
> I can see why we might not want to do that for agonisms in December
> (although you guys do male agonisms for the first half of the year
> separately?) since I guess we’d want them included in the 09b update in
> order to count them when doing the ranks.  Does it matter for June?  Will
> you do the 09a male agonisms before the 09b update?
>
>
>
> I *can* add a census column for 6/29 BUT the animals that Courtney did not
> census (mostly juveniles) would still not have a change in statdate since
> they would still get no census record for that day.  I guess for male ranks
> only the adult male interactions matter though so it would be okay if only
> the adults were marked through the 29th?
>
>
>
> Niki
>
>
>
> *From:* babase-bounces at eeblistserv.Princeton.EDU [mailto:
> babase-bounces at eeblistserv.Princeton.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Lacey Roerish
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2009 12:34 PM
> *To:* The Baboon Database Project
> *Subject:* [Babase] Statdate problem for End June 2009
>
>
>
> Hi All!
>
>     I am working on the uploads of data and have found june to be a bit
> tricky.  Since Courtney is often in the field collecting data on 'last days'
> when the team isn't doing a complete census, the 'censored' statdate of
> individuals in Weaver's group is 6-27, however courtney has (at least)
> agonism data for animals on 6/29.
>
> Is the best solution here to add demog notes? It looks like Courtney did a
> partial census that day.  I know we set up a rule that we wouldn't enter her
> partial censuses unless a demographic change occured.. but maybe we should
> add to this these special june and december cases where we are likely to
> have interaction data corresponding with her partial census.  If we don't
> use that partial census, the animal's statdate is before its final
> interactions for the 6 month update period.
>
> Let me know if I need to do anything on my end to make this happen so I can
> get these data in.
>
> Thanks
> Lacey
>
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Duke University
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