[Babase] sexskin error_ death before maturity

Karl O. Pinc kop at meme.com
Thu May 29 14:42:56 EDT 2008


On 05/29/2008 12:07:31 PM, Jeanne Altmann wrote:
> Hah! Ok, we start monitoring/recording sex skins at the 4th birthday
> in
> all groups but Lodge (where it is the 3rd birthday).  On average, the
> first cycle, puberty, occurs about a half year later.  This is a short
> period, and this is a low mortality life stage--very few females,
> perhaps only 3 or 4, have died in this stage, and perhaps none have
> had
> a non-zero swelling before dying because small swellings prior to the
> first cycle only occur in a subset of females anyway. So, we are
> certainly safe deleting the zeros before these deaths.  If there is a
> non-zero value, could we enter it as a demog note on that day?  The
> only
> reason not to is that no-one is likely to find it, but at least we
> will
> have retained it, and any female who died in that life stage could be
> checked this way to identify any such swellings.

Makes sense to me.  (Short of streamlining the SEXSKINS design
to rely on CYCSTATS/REPSTATS for cycle analysis.)

> From: babase-bounces at eeblistserv.princeton.edu
> [mailto:babase-bounces at eeblistserv.princeton.edu] On Behalf Of kfenn
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:20 PM
> To: The Baboon Database Project
> Subject: [Babase] sexskin error_ death before maturity

> Here's one we didn't think of:  A female is under observation and has
> not yet matured and has swellings of only 0.... then she dies....so no
> cycle to which we can assign a sexskin size.

(FWIW, this is a pretty lame email reply quoting style to keep track
of who said what.)


Karl <kop at meme.com>
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