[Babase] CADET

Susan Alberts babase@www.eco.princeton.edu
Tue, 5 Oct 2004 06:49:12 +0300


I agree with Jeanne that we unfortunately have to stick with 3 letter 
unique codes.

I think we need to work on it from the field end, having them focus 
on this during the first days of each month. And to a certain extent 
I think we have to just live these things when they come up.

Jeanne, I think you should email the team the last paragraph of the 
message you sent. When Raph and I meet tomorrow here in Nbi we'll 
talk about it and i will charge them to think about it in time for my 
next trip to Amb (Oct 15). We'll discuss it more then.

i agree that L should submit the ms and deal with the issue later.

S

>good ideas but unfortunately ones we can go with for one or perhaps 
>all of the following:
>--most Swahili gendered names are not in English and vice versa
>--ran out of ones in both languages
>--have other issues such as pronunciation, etc
>--need 3-letter for lots of reasons at the data collection end
>--would be too confusing to re-use letters at least for those of us 
>who have been around for 20yrs (raph, susan, me, soon serah) and 
>perhaps for others as well.
>
>make sense susan?
>
>jeanne
>
>At 02:03 PM 10/4/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>On 2004.10.04 10:30 Jeanne Altmann wrote:
>>>We just made a very frustrating discovery.  Like WRINKLE, 
>>>apparently CADET was initially classified as a female and then 
>>>subsequently was found to be a male but that information never 
>>>made it into the records in some overt way.
>>
>>Perhaps the problem is that the names are not overtly 'gendered' as
>>you've run out due to the unique 3 char Sname policy.   I've no
>>clue what changing this would mean to the project, but it's
>>certainly possible to change things from the technical side.
>>I don't have all the pluses and minuses at hand re 3 char
>>Snames and so am not advocating alternatives, but consider
>>that you could, for instance, go to 5 chars, 3 alpha
>>followed by 2 numeric.  Perhaps with a policy that the 3
>>alpha not be reused while an individual is alive.  Or
>>something.
>>
>>And of course there's language and culture -- I've
>>no clue if Omo is a female or male name so maybe this
>>is not the answer.
>>
>>?
>>
>>Karl <kop@meme.com>
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