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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ah, yes. I assume all of these are &#8216;by&#8217; dates.&nbsp; If not. Something
more is wrong. Thanks for the update on progress.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>jeanne<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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babase-bounces@eeblistserv.princeton.edu
[mailto:babase-bounces@eeblistserv.princeton.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lacey
Maryott Roerish<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 19, 2010 4:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> The Baboon Database Project<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Babase] Rankdate Changes in Babase<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Susan, Jeanne, Niki and Karl<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;I am running into some problems with
changing the rankdates to the first of the month. &nbsp;There is a rule that
the matured date has to be less than or equal to rank date (With good reason).
However, all of the maturedates that also occur mid-month are throwing an
error. So, it looks as though I will have to roll those back as well. Will pick
at this and try to fix all of the maturedates before rolling the rankdates
back.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;I spoke with Karl about this and there is
a work-around that could fix the majority while skipping the ones that violate
this rule, but it kind of seems like if I am going to be elbow deep in the data
anyway, I should just fix the whole problem at once. &nbsp; Does this fit with
how princeton feels about the timeline of this project? &nbsp;I expect I can
have it all fixed my mid-morning monday, I just want to do some cross-checking
of maturedates and rankdates and make sure there aren't any glaring errors
before i change a whole bunch of data in 2 tables.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Let me know<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Lacey<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Jeanne Altmann &lt;<a
href="mailto:altj@princeton.edu">altj@princeton.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:babase-bounces@eeblistserv.princeton.edu">babase-bounces@eeblistserv.princeton.edu</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:babase-bounces@eeblistserv.princeton.edu">babase-bounces@eeblistserv.princeton.edu</a>]
On Behalf Of Karl O.<br>
Pinc<br>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 3:15 PM<br>
To: The Baboon Database Project<br>
Subject: Re: [Babase] Rankdate Changes in Babase<br>
<br>
On 03/19/2010 01:48:28 PM, Lacey Maryott Roerish wrote:<br>
&gt; Susan, (et al)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Jeanne, Karl, Niki and I just finished discussing how
to handle<br>
&gt; some<br>
&gt; recent issues discovered in babase related to Rankdates. &nbsp;It can be<br>
&gt; difficult to extract number of males on a given date if some males<br>
&gt; rankdates<br>
&gt; occur in the middle of the month. &nbsp;For this reason, &nbsp;I will be<br>
&gt; changing all<br>
&gt; rankdates (Both BY and ON) to the beginning on the month using a<br>
&gt; function<br>
&gt; Karl had previously developed. &nbsp;This will simply make querying<br>
&gt; easier,<br>
&gt; and<br>
&gt; will also sync up rankdates data with actual rank data, which are all<br>
&gt; recorded on the 1st of the month.<br>
<br>
We will also then put a rule in requiring that rankdates.rnkdate be<br>
on the first of the month. &nbsp;(Once Lacey let's me know she's done<br>
changing the data.)<br>
<br>
The problem has been that nobody ever uses the rnkdate() function,<br>
which sets a date to the first of the month, when comparing<br>
ranks.rnkdate with rankdates.ranked. &nbsp;They'll still have to use this<br>
function when doing arbitrary date comparisons against either<br>
ranks.rnkdate or, now, rankdates.ranked so we're not really<br>
making the problem go away, but are pushing it farther to the<br>
fringes. &nbsp;In any case the ranks.rnkdate/rankdate.ranked problem<br>
has been discussed every few years so it's clear there's a<br>
problem there that this change will make go away.<br>
<br>
<br>
Karl &lt;<a href="mailto:kop@meme.com">kop@meme.com</a>&gt;<br>
Free Software: &nbsp;&quot;You don't pay back, you pay forward.&quot;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -- Robert A. Heinlein<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Agreed; it will remain a potentially valuable function that
we need to<br>
remember the situations you note. &nbsp;However, with the proposed change, we<br>
will have the ranked-by date regularized, which is good, and we will<br>
make moot the most common use for the function. Thanks Karl for the<br>
patient reminder about the function and all for brainstorming on the<br>
various issues.<br>
<span style='color:#888888'><br>
jeanne</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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Duke University<br>
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