[Babase] Changing Immigrant Male Census Data
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Wed Nov 18 11:29:56 EST 2009
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On Wed 18/11/09 10:44 AM , "Karl O. Pinc" kop at meme.com sent:
On 11/18/2009 09:34:37 AM, Susan Alberts wrote:
> This problem is historic, it has always been true in the database,
> all
>
> of these are males that date from the original version of babase.
It
> has been on our list for a long time, but we are just now getting
to
> it now that other more urgent data entry issues are being
addressed.
So the answer is to fix the CENSUS rows to use the modern Status
values with rows that are in existence (or not) as current protocol
dictates. Which probably means deleting a lot of rows.
I don't think that more recent immigrant males are in MEMBERS
at all in between their "birth" and when they first appear,
right?
Niki writes:
No, it looks like they show up in members as being interpolated in
group 9 from birth up through the day before they appear in the
census. See ZAK as an example. So it sounds like Karl's plan of
deleting all the weird census data prior to the date of entry to a
study group is a good start - if we then change the entry on the
entry date to a regular census entry, it should interpolate the male
as group 9 prior to that, right? At least as long as that is listed
as their matgroup. And then I guess we can worry about the other old
codes that occur after the entry date when the real census data is
ready for upload.
> Susan
>
>
> On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Jeanne Altmann wrote:
>
> > Wow, that feels like a lot of animals. Do you see a pattern in
this
>
> > problem? My guess is that what you plan is right, but it is Karl
&/
> > or Niki who will know—and then please see if a change is
needed in
> > the documentation. I think Niki is at a prenatal appointment
this
> > morning, so we shouldn’t assume she is w/baby yet but you may
not
> > get a response right away from her).
> > jeanne
> >
> > From: babase-bounces at eeblistserv.princeton.edu [1]
> [babase-bounces at eeblistserv.princeton.edu [2]
> > ] On Behalf Of Lacey Maryott Roerish
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:20 AM
> > To: The Baboon Database Project
> > Subject: [Babase] Changing Immigrant Male Census Data
> >
> > Good morning,
> >
> > This message is primarily for Karl/Niki (if Niki is still
sans
> > baby). I have a list of 25 immigrant males who have a matgrp of
9,
>
> > but who, instead of being in group 9 from birth until their
entry
> > date, are actually shown to be in their 'entry group' at birth.
I
> > have, for all of these males, the list of actual dates when they
> > should enter our population.
> > What I am not sure of is, if I simply change the date prior
to
> > their entry date to group 9... will it interpolate back to 9 for
> the
>
> > rest of their young lives.... do I have to make incremental
> changes,
>
> > do I just change their group at birth date and group at the day
> > before entry?
> > I have tried reading through the documentation but it isn't
> > obvious to me what the best method is to get babase to
understand
> > that these males are really in grp 9 until their entry dates.
> >
> > Any input?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Lacey
> >
> > --
> > - -
> > Lacey K. Maryott Roerish
> > Alberts Lab
> > Department of Biology
> > Duke University
> > ph: 919-660-7306
> > fax: 919-660-7293
> > Lacey.Maryott at duke.edu [3]
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> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Susan Alberts, Dept of Biology, Duke University, Box 90338, Durham
NC
>
> 27708. Phone 919-660-7272, FAX 919-660-7293
>
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Karl
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