[Babase] revised ranker ready for testing
kfenn
kfenn at princeton.edu
Thu May 8 09:55:09 EDT 2008
Hi Jun,
Thanks for your reply and willingness to keep fine-tuning this. My
responses are below.
Jun Yang wrote:
> Hi Tabby:
>
> Just to be sure before I change the code---is the following what you want?
>
> 1. In general, we will turn off the check that requires ranking
> start/end dates to fall on the beginning and the end of a month. In
> other words, you can create rankings that span an arbitrary period.
>
You mean that the list of individuals to appear in the column and row
headings will be created using all the snames that appear in my
specified ranking period, correct? That should be fine, I think. Can
you just explain to me where RANKER is drawing the names from? I am
guessing it compiling the snames list from census data since it seems
that female infants are showing up in the interaction matrices....but I
would like to confirm this.
> (Note, however, that there is still a difference between the ranking
> period and interaction matrix period---the former specifies whom to
> include in the ranking, and the latter specifies the period from which
> interactions will be counted. We do not enforce that the two periods
> are the same.)
>
Yes, that distinction makes sense and I think answers my question
above. I just need a way to include ALL the individuals that were
present for any part of my specified time period...even if they were
only present for a fraction of the time and/or had no "A" interactions
during that time.
> 2. The interface will not allow you to save a ranking if its ranking
> start/end dates do not fall on the beginning and the end of the same
> month. (Currently the database design is hard-coded to assume that a
> ranking must be for one specific month.)
That constraint is fine. I need to create cumulative matrices for
printout to .txt so that we can see the context in which the monthly
interactions are occurring. We never save the ranks from the
cumulative matrices.
> However, you can still save
> the ranking to an XML file on your local drive. Furthermore, you will
> be warned when creating a ranking that cannot be saved in the
> database.
>
>
Thanks again,
Tabby
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 2:07 PM, kfenn <kfenn at princeton.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jun,
>>
>> Thanks for all the updates you have made. I've been using Ranker the last
>> two days and it is hugely improved. It seems the A code is only picking up
>> that which it should.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I've found one issue so far that's still significant enough
>> to keep me from being able to run the ranks:
>>
>> Ranker is dropping some individuals from the cumulative matrix I need to
>> create for each group. The attached word doc shows an example of this: FAC
>> disappears from the Jan-June matrix depending on the month of ranking I
>> choose. (The problem seems to be Ranker only uses the individuals in that
>> appear in the "Ranking" month, rather than incorporating all individuals
>> from the "Interactions" date range.) It's not an option to skip the month
>> of ranking, nor is it an option to input the start date as Jan and the end
>> date as June...Ranker wants the start and end date to be in the same month.
>> Can we make the program less "fool-proof" by allowing the ranking start and
>> end date to NOT be within the same month? This seems like the only way to
>> get around dropping individuals from a 6 month or 1 year long matrix. The
>> database managers will just have to be careful not to try to save the
>> rankings from cumulative matrices.
>> Of course I'm open to any other possible workarounds.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Tabby
>>
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