[Babase] Psion jpsamps and fpsamps in wrong tables
kfenn
kfenn at princeton.edu
Mon Mar 5 17:00:27 EST 2007
I think the errors go only one way for this issue....that is, I was
proposing that once an adult has been entered as an adult, any new
samples should also be entered as an adult (I don't see that we would
have to go the other way unless there is a true maturity error that
needs correcting).
If the psion data arrived as adult one month, and juvenile the next,
could that juvenile status not be switched to adult? From what I see,
the psion data collected on adults versus juveniles differs only in the
two additional variables of 'kidcontact' and 'kidsuckle' for the
adults. Isn't there a 'null' value that is valid for these fields and
could be input when the status needs to be switched? I don't input this
data so I have no idea how much of a pain such a reassignment would
be. Laurence is really the one who is having to work around this
problem so its really a question of her time and trouble versus the
input time and trouble. She should really weigh in on this.
Here's a less painful alternative...
I know the data is only updated in babase 2x per year, but are the psion
data proofed monthly for ad versus juv status? I'm just thinking that
the monthly sexskin sheets generally reflect a first menstrual
cycle.....an email reminder to the team to get the psions synced up when
we notice a discrepancy between sexskin status versus psion status would
help clean things and the females might only 'jump' for a month or two
rather than 6 months or a year.
Tabby
Susan Alberts wrote:
>
> On Mar 3, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
>
>>
>> On 03/03/2007 03:12:14 PM, Susan Alberts wrote:
>>> I will try sum up the problem as I see it (and my views on it) as
>>> follows:
>>
>>> On the other hand, we could continue to allow females to have both
>>> juv and adult samples collected on them for some time. This would be
>>> conceptually messy but would reflect the reality that the observers
>>> will make these errors.
>>
>> It's not just observer error, although it's presumably observer error
>> if there's juvenile samples collected after the first adult female
>> sample is collected. It's not an error to have juvenile samples
>> after the maturity date because it takes time for the
>> "maturity" decision to get back to the field.
>
> Yes, I agree, thanks for clarifying this point.
>
> S
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