[Babase] Re: final census day in June 2007

Jeanne Altmann altj at Princeton.EDU
Tue Feb 19 13:53:12 EST 2008


ditto,
j

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[mailto:babase-bounces at eeblistserv.princeton.edu] On Behalf Of Susan
Alberts
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:13 PM
To: Lacey Maryott
Cc: The Baboon Database Project; Jeanne Altmann; Katherine H. Fenn
Subject: [Babase] Re: final census day in June 2007


Yes on all. Thanks. As a general rule, it seems that we have another
thing that we should check before making this decision: check for
interactions recorded on those dates (obvious in retrospect! Sorry). 
Susan

On Feb 19, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Lacey Maryott wrote:



	    Just to keep this documented, after this decision was made
by Susan,  I started the 07A update, and found that interactions also
occur on the 29th of June for some of the groups in question.  It seems
that the team was with Nyayo's, Viola's, Omo's, and Weaver's groups this
day.  Some of the groups only have a quick census, for VIO and WEA a C
and an M were observed. Omo's had a long list of interactions. So, for
this reason, all 4 groups will have census date 06-29-2008.  Tabby will
make these changes for Omo's and Weaver's group. VIO and NYA already
have census dates on the 29th.

	Susan, does this all seem right to you, this is our decision and
we should go for it? Or are there more things to consider?

	thanks!
	Lacey


	kfenn wrote:



		Susan Alberts wrote:

			In that case I think it is worth querying the
team. Most likely they won't recall after so long. However, it is worth
asking them, to flag it to their attention. If they don't recall, then
it is probably most conservative to assign the census dates to the days
that the activity calendars indicate there were censuses.

			Susan

			On 19 Dec 2007, at 11:21, kfenn wrote:


				There is some evidence of a mix-up.

				I have a census for Omo on the 29th but
not the 27th.
				Linda's looks fine:  census data for the
27th and 28th.
				I have a census for Weaver on the 29th
but not the 28th.

				Tabby

				Susan Alberts wrote:

				Hi Tabby,

				Actually it's not impossible. If the
whole team was out there and darting ended early then they may well have
decided to do this; I don't remember at the moment, but I do know that
we often decided to do extra censuses on early darting days. Are there
censuses for Omo on 27th, Linda on 27th and 28th, and Weaver on 28th as
well as all of them on 29th? Or is there some evidence that dates got
mixed up?

				Susan

				On 19 Dec 2007, at 11:04, kfenn wrote:


				Hi Jeanne,

				I was just checking the last census day
for June for all the groups because this poses a limit on the cycles I
can enter.  I found something peculiar that I wanted to check with you,
Susan, and maybe the team.  Weaver, Nyayo, Omo, and Viola all have a
final census day of  June 29th.  It seems strange (or impossible) that a
census would have been done for all 4 groups on this day.
				The activity calendars say:
				June 27:  Linda, Nya, Omo census
				June 28:  Darting - Linda, Weaver census
				June 29:  Darting - Nyayo, Viola census

				Any insights or suggestions on whether I
need to pursue a possible correction?

				Thanks,
				Tabby


				-- 
				Tabby Fenn
				Research Assistant

				Dept of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
				401 Guyot Hall
				Princeton University
				Princeton, NJ  08544

				609 258-6898 (Ph)
				609 258-2712 (Fx)




				-- 
				Tabby Fenn
				Research Assistant

				Dept of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
				401 Guyot Hall
				Princeton University
				Princeton, NJ  08544

				609 258-6898 (Ph)
				609 258-2712 (Fx)





	-- 
	Lacey Maryott
	Alberts Lab
	Department of Biology
	Duke University
	ph: 919-660-7306
	fax: 919-660-7293
	Lacey.Maryott at duke.edu 


-----------------------------------------------
Susan Alberts, Dept. Biology, Duke University, Durham NC 27708. Phone
919-660-7272, Fax 919-660-7293. alberts at duke.edu



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