[Babase] Male immigrant questions for Susan
Catherine Markham
babase@www.eco.princeton.edu
Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:20:35 -0400
Thanks, Susan - I just updated SOO's BIOGRAPH record with the birth date
and bstatus.
Catherine
Susan Alberts wrote:
>> Hi Susan,
>>
>> I have a few questions for you regarding two new immigrant males seen
>> in Viola's group last March. On 22 March 2005, a young adult male and
>> a young juvenile male were censused as present in the group. The
>> young adult male was not seen again and was never named. The young
>> juvenile male stayed with Viola's group through early April and was
>> later named Sooty.
>>
>> The field demography note for Viola's group during this time period read:
>>
>> 22 March 2005: Wabash and a young adult male who is a hybrid are in
>> Viola's group today. The young adult male is very shy and he is
>> keeping to a distance from the rest of the group but I'm sure it was
>> because of observers. With him was a young juvenile male the size of
>> EGO and also very shy and following that young adult male wherever he
>> went. He is probably also from Ositeti and left the group to follow
>> the young male. He is approximately 3 1/2 years old. We will give
>> them names if they stay.
>>
>> 25 March 2005: Wabash and the adult male seen on the 22nd of March 05
>> are not with Viola's group today... Also the juvenile male is still
>> present.
>>
>> 28 March 2005: We named the juvenile male in Viola's group Sooty (SOO).
>>
>> Since the young adult male was never named, I couldn't think of a way
>> include him in the Babase Census and Members tables for the group that
>> day. Is that ok?
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> Right, he can't be included even via a demog note.
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>> Also, an official age estimate was never done on SOO. The only age
>> info we have for him comes from the first field demography note quoted
>> above - the team confirmed that no other age info was collected.
>> Jeanne suggested I check the reference to EGO's age... EGO was born 25
>> December 2001 (bstatus = 0), so EGO's age in March 2005 is
>> approximately 3 1/4 years. I thought this coincided well with the
>> team's estimate that SOO is about 3 1/2 years.
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> For juveniles, we don't do age estimates the same way we do with adults
> -- we don't fill out that form. Instead we age them by comparison with
> known-age juv males in the study population, as they did here.
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>> Do you agree that I should give SOO a birth date of 21 September 2001
>> (making him 3 1/2 years old on 22 March 2005)?
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> Yes.
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>> Also, what bstatus is appropriate?
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> Give it a 1. Age estimates by comparison with known juvs are pretty
> good, will generally be to within a year unless they make a specific
> note about it.
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> Susan