[Babase] Predation Data
Catherine Markham
amarkham at princeton.edu
Wed May 31 09:34:06 EDT 2006
Hi Leah,
I'm forwarding your note to the listserv to start getting some of these
discussions of new Babase datasets archived there (hope you don't mind).
Regarding the predation data that was entered at Princeton, Jeanne had a
high school student (Gabriel) do some of the entry related to a project
he was interested in. Just glancing through his Excel file, he has
entries spanning 1994-2001.
I never really worked with him (he finished up pretty much when I
started), so I can't offer too much insight into his focus, techniques,
etc. I'll forward his file to you in a separate email off-list, and
also check for any protocols that we might have in the lab here.
As for other notes on the predation dataset, I thought I'd forward an
old email discussion we had last July about the file status (mostly
related to Duke's portion). I know it wasn't what you were asking
about, but thought it would be good to get that archived on the listserv
as well.
Hope all that helps! I'll send you the Excel file in just a second.
Catherine
Leah Gerber wrote:
> Hello Catherine,
>
> Good morning. I am wondering if you know anything about the predation
> data at Princeton. We have the "official" copy of the data from
> 1981-1991 which we are about to proof. I am wondering if there is any
> more at Princeton. Jasmine has time to enter some this summer if we know
> where it has left off at Princeton. Susan thought some was entered at
> Princeton after 1991, but maybe not.
>
> Thanks,
> Leah
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Predation Data - Duke file
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:33:36 -0400
From: Jeanne Altmann <altj at Princeton.EDU>
To: Leah Gerber <lgerber at duke.edu>, Catherine Markham
<amarkham at Princeton.EDU>
CC: alberts at duke.edu
References: <42DE61CC.6060003 at princeton.edu>
<455243075.1121858406 at hornbill.biology.duke.edu>
Hi Leah and Catherine,
Steph was the lead person and supervisor of Tay on this, and she did the
proofing with Tay. If you can't located the proofing information, would
you please contact her at the Primate Center (I don't have her current
contact but assume that Leah does), and I would think that she can sort
this out and tell you where to look. It does sound like we were sent, and
Leah can only find as well, the unproofed files.
I'll copy this to Steph's old email address just in case she has messages
forwarded.
Hi Steph if you get this,
jeanne
At 11:20 AM 20/07/2005, Leah Gerber wrote:
>Hello Catherine,
>
>I found the note that Susan left about the predation data. I also found
>the data here. It looks like I have the same data you do. I looked through
>the individual dbf files and noticed wrong dates and deleted records. I
>have no readme or documentation about the entry process. Susan's note to
>me said that Duke's files had been proofed from 1981-1991 inclusive and
>needed to be combined with princeton's. I went and checked on Susan's
>computer and found what was labelled as "Tay's final" predation data. it
>has the same errors. I am not sure what we should do to fix this? Should I
>work on fixing these files on Duke's end? If so, could you send me the
>info on how to enter it.
>
>Leah
>
>
>
>--On Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:38 AM -0400 Catherine Markham
><amarkham at Princeton.EDU> wrote:
>
>>Hi Leah,
>>
>>Could you help me with some questions about the Predation dataset? I
>>started looking through it last week and got a bit confused. As I
>>understood it, a portion of the data was entered down at Duke and a
>>portion of it was entered up here. For the Duke portion, I have a CD
>>here labeled "Baboon Predation Data 1981-1991" with a note that says:
>>
>>****
>>
>>7 April 2003
>>
>>Daphne -
>>
>>Here is a CD with all predation data entered from 1981-1991. This
>>should eventually be combined with data that Gabriel is entering.
>>Tay's notes on entering are included.
>>
>>Susan
>>
>>****
>>
>>Sounded to me like that should be the final version of Duke's
>>contribution to the Predation dataset. However, there are some
>>obvious errors with the dataset that pop-out right when you look at
>>it:
>>
>>The files saved on that CD sent from Susan to Daphne were all Foxpro
>>files (a separate dbf for each year from 1981 through 1991). There
>>are some rows marked for deletion in these separate file - I'm not
>>sure how to interpret that. Should they really be deleted? If so, I
>>wonder why this wasn't just taken care of if I'm truly looking at the
>>final, proofed version. Also, there are some dates out of range for
>>the file they are saved in. For example, in the dbf for 1988 there
>>is a 1987 record. Is the date wrong here or is the data simply
>>entered in the wrong file? And, finally, when I append all the dbfs
>>into one file and export that to Excel, I start to see some really
>>funky dates (like rows for dates in 2008 and 8300) and even rows with
>>no dates.
>>
>>Jeanne suggested I touch base with you and see if maybe you could
>>find out if this was the truly the final version. Or maybe you have
>>more detailed notes on the entry/proofing process? I do have notes
>>on the codes used for entry, but nothing that resembles a proofing
>>log.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Catherine
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