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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> babase-bounces@eeblistserv.princeton.edu
[mailto:babase-bounces@eeblistserv.princeton.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Susan
Alberts<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:13 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Lacey
Maryott<BR><B>Cc:</B> The Baboon Database Project; Jeanne Altmann; Katherine H.
Fenn<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Babase] Re: final census day in June
2007<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Yes on all. Thanks. As a general rule, it seems that we have another
thing that we should check before making this decision: check for interactions
recorded on those dates (obvious in retrospect! Sorry).
<DIV>Susan</DIV>
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<DIV>On Feb 19, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Lacey Maryott wrote:</DIV><BR
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</SPAN>Just to keep this documented, after this decision was made by
Susan,<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>I started the 07A
update, and found that interactions also occur on the 29th of June for some of
the groups in question.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>It
seems that the team was with Nyayo's, Viola's, Omo's, and Weaver's groups this
day.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Some of the groups only
have a quick census, for VIO and WEA a C and an M were observed. Omo's had a
long list of interactions. So, for this reason, all 4 groups will have census
date 06-29-2008.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Tabby will
make these changes for Omo's and Weaver's group. VIO and NYA already have
census dates on the 29th.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Susan, does this all seem right to you, this is our
decision and we should go for it? Or are there more things to consider?</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">thanks!</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Lacey</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">kfenn wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Susan Alberts wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">In that case I think it is worth querying the
team. Most likely they won't recall after so long. However, it is worth
asking them, to flag it to their attention. If they don't recall, then it
is probably most conservative to assign the census dates to the days that
the activity calendars indicate there were censuses.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Susan</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">On 19 Dec 2007, at 11:21, kfenn wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">There is some evidence of a mix-up.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I have a census for Omo on the 29th but not the
27th.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Linda's looks fine:<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>census data for the 27th and
28th.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I have a census for Weaver on the 29th but not
the 28th.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Tabby</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Susan Alberts wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Hi Tabby,</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Actually it's not impossible. If the whole
team was out there and darting ended early then they may well have
decided to do this; I don't remember at the moment, but I do know that
we often decided to do extra censuses on early darting days. Are there
censuses for Omo on 27th, Linda on 27th and 28th, and Weaver on 28th
as well as all of them on 29th? Or is there some evidence that dates
got mixed up?</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Susan</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">On 19 Dec 2007, at 11:04, kfenn wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Hi Jeanne,</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I was just checking the last census day for
June for all the groups because this poses a limit on the cycles I
can enter.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>I found
something peculiar that I wanted to check with you, Susan, and maybe
the team.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Weaver,
Nyayo, Omo, and Viola all have a final census day of<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>June 29th.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>It seems strange (or
impossible) that a census would have been done for all 4 groups on
this day.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">The activity calendars say:</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">June 27:<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Linda, Nya, Omo
census</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">June 28:<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Darting - Linda, Weaver
census</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">June 29:<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Darting - Nyayo, Viola
census</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Any insights or suggestions on whether I
need to pursue a possible correction?</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Tabby</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Tabby Fenn</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Research Assistant</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Dept of Ecology and Evolutionary
Biology</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">401 Guyot Hall</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Princeton University</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Princeton, NJ<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">609 258-6898 (Ph)</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">609 258-2712 (Fx)</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Tabby Fenn</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Research Assistant</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Dept of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">401 Guyot Hall</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Princeton University</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Princeton, NJ<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">609 258-6898 (Ph)</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">609 258-2712 (Fx)</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Lacey Maryott</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Alberts Lab</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Department of Biology</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Duke University</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">ph: 919-660-7306</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">fax: 919-660-7293</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A
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<DIV>Susan Alberts, Dept. Biology, Duke University, Durham NC 27708. Phone
919-660-7272, Fax 919-660-7293. <A
href="mailto:alberts@duke.edu">alberts@duke.edu</A></DIV>
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