[Babase] Maturedates
Karl O. Pinc
kop at meme.com
Thu Apr 1 11:30:46 EDT 2010
On 04/01/2010 10:19:00 AM, Susan Alberts wrote:
> >> 1. "The age of the individual on his Consorted date must be at
> least
> >> 5
> >>
> >> years and less than 12 years."
> >>
> >> SCA comment: I am not sure why we restricted this to 12 years.
> Surely
> >>
> >> it's right that it would be a truly weird male that had not
> reached
> >> firsst consortship by age 12, but I am not sure why we made it a
> >> rule.
>
> Let's make it just a warning.
Ok.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> 2. "Males (or those of unknown sex) may have juvenile (Stype=J)
> >> SAMPLES rows for up to but not including 1 year after maturity
> >> (MATUREDATES.Matured)."
> >>
> >>
> >> SCA comment: I am not sure we should have this rule. At this point
> we
> >>
> >> don’t sample subadult males (males that are past maturedate but
> not
> >> yet reached rankdate) but if we did, the format for those samples
> >> would almost certainly be just like juv point samples.
> >
> > That's why the rule is there, because you sometimes continue to
> > sample as juv samples. IIRC there actually _was_ some data
> > that was rejected by the conversion until we raised the limit
> > to 1 year after the maturity date. (Although this may
> > have been females.)
> >
> >> Then we would
> >> have a problem with this rule. However, if we substituted
> "rankdates.
> >>
> >> Ranked" for "maturedates.matured" in this rule I would be more
> >> comfortable. Comments?
> >
> > I thought rankdate came after maturity date so that would allow
> > juvenile point samples for even longer than the current rule.
> > Are you sure this is what you want?
>
> Males reach "maturedates" long before they reach adulthood (which
> comes at rankdate). In this way they are different from females, who
> reach adulthood upon reaching maturedates. For males, the rule should
>
> be different from females. We should allow them to be sampled as
> juveniles well after they reach maturedates, in fact even after they
> reach rankdates.
>
> Does this clarify?
Ok. The subadult males get juvenile samples. So, for females the
rule is still one year after maturedate, but for males the rule is
what, one year after rankdate?
Karl <kop at meme.com>
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