[Babase] Fwd: baboons with no deathdate and Ositeti
subgroups (formerly Mica's infant MESHAEK)
Niki Learn
nlearn at princeton.edu
Tue Sep 22 10:59:41 EDT 2009
On 09/22/2009 08:45:05 AM, Niki Learn wrote:
> So you would be okay with a new status, Karl? Maybe something like
> "alive at last census"?
Karl wrote:
Sure. Although as Susan said, you used to have one....
Niki writes:
Yeah, that's why I guess I was thinking they should be marked dead at a
certain age beyond which we would be unlikely to find one alive but that
this would require a new dcause. It sounds like Susan doesn't want to mark
them dead though. So I guess this idea is sort of at an impasse?
> > However, Niki raises the point that this creates individuals in the
>
> > database that could theoretically 'come back' after 30 years or
> more.
>
> Karl wrote:
> We could even make a warning that checks for alive individuals with
> no census information for, say, 10 years.
>
> Niki writes:
> This actually would go a long way to solving the problem since the
> majority of the individuals that should definitely not be showing up
> again have not been censused for more than ten years. When you say
> warning does that mean it would generate an error during upload or is
> a warning something different (maybe that would ask you whether you
> really want to enter that data since the individual hasn't been seen
> in > 10 years)? This also sounds much simpler to implement than
> messing around with the statuses. Does this sound like a good idea
> to
> everybody?
Karl wrote:
Warnings are what we've not done. They run in batch on a regular basis
(and could be run manually, etc.) The batch runs would send email or
some such.
Niki writes:
Okay. So since I load census data into babase_test first I could then
manually run this test to check for any odd sightings and investigate them
before doing the final upload to babase. That seems like a good idea to me.
I still think the 30-something year-old baboons that haven't been seen in 15
or 20 years are a confusing loose end. But maybe there is not a good way to
address them?
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