We need vocabulary -- Was: Re: [Babase] Ranker Meeting

Tyler Brock tjb13 at duke.edu
Wed Apr 25 14:36:06 EDT 2007


I agree. This seems good except for in my paper I use database login  
and Babase login interchangeably so we will stick with your  
recommendation in all documentation.

-Tyler

On Apr 25, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Lacey Maryott wrote:

> I think that "Babase Login" "Unix Login" and "Wiki Login" All seem  
> appropriate.  They are all fairly discrete in my opinion.  There's  
> my input :)
>
>
> Lacey
>
> Karl O. Pinc wrote:
>>
>> On 04/25/2007 08:03:51 AM, Lacey Maryott wrote:
>>
>>> *The interface requires a log in and that log in will be the same  
>>> as your PPA login.
>>
>> A note on vocabularly, because getting the terms right will help
>> everybody understand how things work.  If we get the words
>> wrong confusion will forever reign and there will be much
>> wailing and gnashing of teeth.  :-)
>>
>> Both PPA and the ranker, and anything else that gets access to
>> the database, require a "database login".  If we want we
>> can call it a postgres (or postgresql) login, because that's
>> the database software.  Or, we can call it a Babase login.
>>
>> Let's pick a consistent name and use that everywhere.
>> I've been using "database login", but one of the others
>> might make more sense to people.  I'd shy away from
>> "PPA login" because it's not something that's PPA specific.
>>
>> The other login that we have get's ssh access to papio.
>> I've been calling this a "Unix login".  We could call it
>> a papio login.  It turns out that this same username/password
>> pair also grants the people at Duke access to other
>> biology related computers, so I'm sure there's a name
>> for it (like "biology login"?) used by Duke.  However
>> Duke's term is associated with access that we don't normally have
>> so I don't think we want to use Duke's term.
>>
>> The "Unix login" grants access to the VPN.  It'll be
>> necessary to start the VPN (when not at Duke) to run
>> the ranker program.  When using the ranker
>> the Unix login turns on the VPN, which gets you to papio,
>> the database login then gets you to the database.
>>
>> Most Babase user's don't need a Unix login because they
>> get to papio over the web.  The ranker program talks
>> directly to the database, on papio, and so needs
>> permissions to get through Duke's firewalls to papio.
>> The VPN provides this access.
>>
>> That's the story.  Please chime in and let's pick some
>> vocabulary for the two kinds of logins.
>>
>> When we pick something could somebody write up the
>> results on the wiki?  (Which reminds me, there's
>> also a wiki username/password, so your sophisticated
>> Babase user will have 3 logins.  I'm sure I could
>> make the wiki use the database login, but it's
>> almost surely not worth messing with.  Oh yeah.
>> There's also the mailing list username (aka email address)
>> and password.  But nobody really ever uses that
>> except to sign up or un-sign up.
>> Except for the mailing list _administrator_ username
>> and password....  *sigh*)
>>
>> Karl <kop at meme.com>
>> Free Software:  "You don't pay back, you pay forward."
>>                  -- Robert A. Heinlein
>>
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-Tyler

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