[Babase] Re: Correction for consorts data, and valinter for M/C/Es

Daphne Onderdonk babase@www.eco.princeton.edu
Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:55:12 -0500


Hello all,

Jeanne and I just talked about this.  My first reaction was that for something
specific like this, maybe we didn't need to have a permanent record of it, and
that we could just use the Babase list for more general decisions.  But obviously
that is not a black and white distinction, and as Jeanne pointed out, sometimes
these specific things bring up more general questions.  So I think our thoughts
were to go through the mailing list even for things like this.

And this specific thing does bring up a more general thing - Karl, is there no
check in the valinter program that checks that the actor is not a female?  It
seems that could be in there, unless valinter checks all the interaction types
the same way (this would obviously only apply to M/C/Es - agonisms and grooming
can have either sex as the actor and actee, but M/C/Es should always be male
M/C/E female).  Can it check the different interaction types differently?  Is
this a check that we want to put in there?

I will do some querying in Interact/Parts to see if there are more cases like
this.

Daphne

Jeanne Altmann wrote:

> hi all,
> do we want all babase correspondence to go through the babase mailing list
> now or just a subset?  Daphne raised this yesterday, and I assumed all;
> what do you think?
> jeanne
>
> At 09:29 AM 2/18/2004 -0500, Karen Drysdale wrote:
>
> >Hi Daphne,
> >
> >Yesterday I was running a query to update the first consort (consorted) data
> >for the adult males since with the data from 2000 - 2002.  In the results of
> >the query I found the Cheka (CHE) had a first consort date.  But CHE is a
> >female.
> >
> >So I searched into it more deeply.
> >
> >I found that the iid's 356844, 356845, 356846, 356847, 356848 have CHE
> >entered
> >as the actor "R"; and it should be CHA - Charlie.
> >
> >This data is in Linda's group 1997.
> >
> >It should be
> >
> >Date    Actor   Act   Actee    Time                IID
> >
> >12/9/97  CHA     E     KAT      15:09             356844
> >12/9/97  CHA     E     KAT      16:16             356845
> >12/9/97  CHA     E     KAT      17:28             356846
> >10/9/97  CHA     C     KAT      6:55    12:30     356847
> >12/9/97  CHA     C     KAT      12:37   18:30     356848
> >
> >But currently all of these entries in "PARTS" in babase has CHE instead of
> >CHA.
> >
> >Could you please correct these in Parts when you get the chance.
> >
> >I hope this makes sense.  It is difficult to describe because some of the
> >information is in parts and some in interacts.  But I think you get the
> >jist of
> >what I am saying.
> >
> >Let me know if you have any questions,
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Karen