FW: [Babase] GPS Notes for Babase/General Use

Lacey Maryott lacey.maryott at duke.edu
Wed Sep 9 09:18:29 EDT 2009


The GPS is what these are collected in. That is where you will find the 
data, and I send that to Catherine periodically.   But yes, as Susan 
recalls they never came to an agreement as to what to do in the GPS, 
although the team has been recording these subgroupings as best as 
possible in the GPS units with notes, and different notations. I don't 
think the data is lost, it is there, it is just a matter of 
understanding it, and being able to get it back out somehow. That is 
what my initial e-mail was in reference too.

I hope this clarifies
Lacey

Niki Learn wrote:
> Sure - I tried to look it up but there were so many emails going on then I
> had trouble tracing the one thread to figure out what the conclusion was.
> But it looks like we are both agreed that regardless of what they were doing
> in the psion they were supposed to be writing down subgroup notes on paper.
> Wonder how they came to be putting notes in the psion...?  Maybe I need to
> dig into those files to add whatever notes are in them to the subgroup
> tables I've been putting together.  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Catherine Markham [mailto:amarkham at Princeton.EDU] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 5:24 PM
> To: Niki Learn
> Subject: Re: FW: [Babase] GPS Notes for Babase/General Use
>
> I do get those messages, but thanks for checking.
>
> As for what was discussed with the subgrouping, I actually thought we 
> had decided not to ask the team to add the "S" to the Psion (I could be 
> mistaken, though).  Instead, I thought it had been agreed to record 
> everything by hand on the subgroups datasheets.  It is a bit 
> discouraging to hear now that nothing was ever solidified (I somehow had 
> a different impression by the end of our email exchanges about all 
> this).  Shoot, certainly would be a real shame to have lost data on a 
> fission simply because protocols weren't in place.
>
> I'll be in the lab tomorrow.  Maybe we can rethink the exchange about 
> all this in person then?
>
>
> Niki Learn wrote:
>   
>> Do you get this?  Not sure if you are subscribed to both lists...  Isn't
>> this off?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: babase-bounces at eeblistserv.Princeton.EDU
>> [mailto:babase-bounces at eeblistserv.Princeton.EDU] On Behalf Of Lacey
>>     
> Maryott
>   
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 4:45 PM
>> To: The Baboon Database Project
>> Subject: Re: [Babase] GPS Notes for Babase/General Use
>>
>> Susan said that she spoke with them team while she was there, but 
>> nothing was ever really solidified in terms of what they are doing or 
>> how it should be standardized.
>>
>> Niki Learn wrote:
>>     
>>> I thought from the big discussion in June that field personnel were
>>>       
>> supposed
>>     
>>> to include an S (for subgroups) in the psion waypoint name and then write
>>> out a normal subgroups note on paper as they normally would...  Is that
>>>       
>> not
>>     
>>> what is happening?
>>>
>>> By the way, in addition to the data Catherine and I are compiling on
>>> subgroups, I just finished putting together a table showing all sightings
>>>       
>> of
>>     
>>> the Ositeti subgroups in 2009.  It is difficult to tell who is in what
>>>       
>> group
>>     
>>> at any given time because, though 17 baboons have been sighted in the
>>>       
>> group
>>     
>>> at one point or another this year (Jill and 16 males, four with collars),
>>> the team typically only lists about 1-3 individuals seen in the group (if
>>> any).  And there has only been one formal census of one of the subgroups
>>>       
>> all
>>     
>>> year.  I was hoping to at least sort out which group Lawyer (with the GPS
>>> collar) is in but he is often listed alone or with a subset of other
>>>       
>> males.
>>     
>>> Other times he is seen with Jill and other times with Latin (and
>>>       
>> supposedly
>>     
>>> Latin is in a different subgroup from Jill).  So maybe he is bouncing
>>>       
>> around
>>     
>>> a lot but it would be helpful to know which subgroup he is in at any
>>>       
> given
>   
>>> time so we know which is being tracked on GPS.  The groups were more
>>> consistently referred to as either Jill's or Latin's in the July data (or
>>>       
>> at
>>     
>>> least the big and small group, the small being Latin's), but not always.
>>>
>>> Niki
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: babase-bounces at eeblistserv.Princeton.EDU
>>> [mailto:babase-bounces at eeblistserv.Princeton.EDU] On Behalf Of Lacey
>>>       
>> Maryott
>>     
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 3:35 PM
>>> To: The Baboon Database Project
>>> Subject: [Babase] GPS Notes for Babase/General Use
>>>
>>> Just a note about GPS data
>>>
>>> It is starting to be the case that the GPS files coming back from the 
>>> field are containing extensive notes about subgrouping, etc.
>>>  It is becoming clear to both Susan and myself that a good system for 
>>> 'notes' and documenting this needs to be developed.
>>>
>>> In addition, we will also need to be sure to include in the babase 
>>> design for GPS data (whenever that happens) that we will need to have a 
>>> 'notes' capability of some sort to include these notes about which 
>>> subgroups the observers are with, etc.
>>>
>>> Just something we should be keeping in mind
>>> Lacey
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>
>   

-- 
Lacey Maryott
Alberts Lab
Department of Biology
Duke University
ph: 919-660-7306
fax: 919-660-7293
Lacey.Maryott at duke.edu 



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