[Babase] [Fwd: Re: OFR error 9 feb]
Karl O. Pinc
kop at meme.com
Wed Dec 10 12:59:59 EST 2008
On 12/10/2008 08:55:35 AM, Lacey Maryott wrote:
> Hey Tabby,
>
> I'm sending this to the babase list because I'm honestly not sure if
> it can just be deleted. I'm assuming it can. Karl, is there a
> validation rule that is creating this error? Make sense that there
> would be. If I can get the all clear from the powers that be (Susan,
> Karl, Jeanne if you are following this) I will go ahead and just
> delete these since I know there is no data other than that she was
> out of sight.
>
> Lacey
(FYI This quoting style make it hard to tell who said what.)
>
> Thanks for the lookup, Lacey.
> Are you allowed to delete the sample? I can't update the statdate to
> her true deathdate because the validation rules are telling me that
> she can't be recorded as dead the same day she has a row in
> SAMPLES....? Probably a new (and rare) problem with the validation
> rules.
>
>
> Tabby
>
> Lacey Maryott wrote:
>> Hey Tabby,
>>
>> I just looked at this, and OFR was out of site for the whole
>> sample on 9 Feb. That just means they had her picked to sample that
>> day, but when she wasn't there, they just went through her 10
>> minutes entering that she was out of site, presumably incase by
>> chance she rejoined the group. Hope this helps!
>>
>> Lacey
>>
>> kfenn wrote:
>>> Hi Lacey,
>>>
>>> I'm not even going to attempt to explain how I found this screwy
>>> thing, but I need your help to correct it so I can update the
>>> statdate.
>>>
>>> OFR (Omo's) has a demog note for 9 Feb 2008 that says she was not
>>> found during the census. However, she has row in SAMPLES for this
>>> date (it didn't throw an error for you because I put the demog note
>>> in so Babase assumed she was really in the census that day.).
Yes, putting a demog note in for an individual makes them present
on that day. Right now there is no provision for having
a demography note for an absent individual. If we
want to do that I could make some changes.
One way around this is to mark them absent (A) in
CENSUS on that day, but _not_ mark the census row
CEN column TRUE, so it'd be a census row that's
_not_ there because of a census. Right now,
when a demography note goes in and there's an
absence recorded in census, the demography note
changes the absence to a D, indicating presence
due to demography note. It could check the CEN
column and only make the change when the CENSUS
row was input as part of a census. That way you
could manually put an 'A' in and it would "stick"
when you put a demography note in. (We'd also
have to have the manual "A" automatically removed
when the demography note was removed -- I think.)
>>>
>>> Can you check on this and let me know what we ought to do?
>>> Deleting the SAMPLES row would make sense it unless OFR was
>>> actually there that day. In that caseI need to change the census
>>> from absent to present.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tabby
>>>
>>
>
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>
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>
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> Lacey Maryott
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