[Babase] Male ranks 2008A completed

Lacey Maryott lacey.maryott at duke.edu
Tue Mar 3 16:29:02 EST 2009


Hi all,

We have now done all male ranks for all groups for 2008A. See some 
specific comments and questions below, and give any input you have.

These ranks are now all saved in babase. However, Lacey usually double 
checks before we consider them final, and this has not yet been done. 
She will send out an email when this is done. Probably very little will 
change between now and then; she usually does find some errors but not 
too many. We think this was very clean, so go ahead and use with caution 
but be aware that she might make a couple of corrections; this should be 
done by end of day Monday March 9.

We also  thought it would be helpful to start sending lists to babase 
about ranked and matured dates so that we can look in the archives if 
someone has questions later.

1. Note to Tabby -- GYAN, new male in Nyayo's immigrated Febg 2008. You 
assigned him an age like that of Bucky, but upon re-reading the demog 
note for him, Lacey and I realized that they said he was the same size 
as Fabian, not the same size as Bucky (they said his coat color was like 
that of Bucky). Please correct the est birthdate, thanks.

2. We will assign GYAN a Matured-by date of 1Feb08. He does not yet have 
a ranked date, he is a subadult and talking only to subadults.

3. We have assigned a ranked-by Date to GAB of Sep07 -- recall that he 
was one of Brittany's questions.

4. Esien, new male in Nya, immigrated March 2008. He is a juvenile and 
has testes NOT E. We did NOT assign him a matured date. Tabby, did you 
checkto confirm that the team put him on their scrotal assessment sheet?

5. New male THURAM in NYA will have a ranked by date and a matured by 
date of 1 March 2008.

6. New male HYDRO in NYA will have a ranked by date and a matured by 
date of 1 May 2008.

7. No young males attained ranked-on dates in Nyayo's, Viola's, Linda's 
or Weaver's in 2008A (but see note below about CAD in Weaver's/Omo's)

8. In Omo's, DASTON is TENTATIVELY assigned a ranked on date of Jun 1, 
2008 because he soundly beat Exodus BUT THIS IS PROVISIONAL, AS WE DO 
NOT HAVE DATA FOR LATER MONTHS YET. We don't like to assign ranked dates 
on so little information and no confirmation.

9. In WEA, GAM immigrated in March,we have assigned him a rankedby and 
matured by date of 1 March 2008.

10. CADET, natal in WEA, immigrated to OMO in Jun 2008. Data in WEA are 
too thin to tell whether he ranked before leaving, and he did not talk 
to adult males in Omo's in June. So,  WE CANNOT YET ASSIGN A RANKED DATE 
TO CADET.

11. Having very little data for Weaver's for 2008 makes the ranking 
process go wonderfully quickly. However,it means that for Weaver's in 
particular we really need all year to have any sense of male 
trajectories. USE WEAVER'S MALE RANKS FOR 2008A WITH CAUTION. This is 
not just because we didn't see many interactions, but because the 
interactions we did see have so little context. For instance, ELV went 
over VAP once. VAP is two above ELV,and the rules say we donot give 
credit for this -- too big a jump. We stuck to this rule, but it may 
well mean that in cases like this we failed to give credit to some real 
changes. Nothing to do about this -- we have no basis for changing the 
rules, nor for keeping them the same really.

12. As is obvious, these ranks -especially for may and june -- should be 
taken with caution as we don't have the whole year., This especially 
applied to LInda's, where there was a lot of action in May and June and 
a lot of rank changes, but should be kept in mind for all.

Susan and Lacey




-- 
Lacey Maryott
Alberts Lab
Department of Biology
Duke University
ph: 919-660-7306
fax: 919-660-7293
Lacey.Maryott at duke.edu 



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