[Babase] Vumbi consort data in interact and parts

Susan Alberts babase@www.eco.princeton.edu
Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:50:36 -0500


Thanks Daphne,

Yes that rule must have changed or gotten put in place around the 
time I started working on the project so I am fuzzy on the details. 
My view is that the Consortships should definitely be deleted if the 
male is less than 4, as we use first consortship as a maturational 
marker and having false "C"s in the records just confuses things.  I 
didn't know there were actually two of these -- can you just tell me 
who so that I can make sure it hasn't been taking as a real C date? 
I'm sure I would have picked up on it but let's be careful anyway.

My inclination would be to also remove the M's where males were not 
yet 4 or females not yet reached menarche especially as they are 
currently idiosyncratic -- i.e. only collected for a limited time 
period and not any longer.  Let's leave it that we will delete these 
unless Jeanne thinks otherwise --

And yes, do go ahead and delete the m-m and f-f MCEs.

Thanks again for your careful tending of the data.

Susan

>Hello all,
>
>This got me doing more querying...  I checked Interact and Parts for 
>MCEs where
>the females hadn't reached menarche, or the males were not yet 4 years old.
>There are only 10 where the female has not reached menarche - all Ms.  All are
>from the late 70s and early 80s.  Should these be deleted?
>
>There are lots more where the male is not yet 4 years old (421 to be exact).
>They are mostly from the late 70s and early 80s, with only a handful from the
>late 80s and early 90s.  Did the rule about recording only males over 4 and
>females that have reached menarche change somewhere along the way?  Only 2 of
>these are consorts (the one Karen found and one other).  Should 
>these be deleted?
>
>Haven't heard back about deleting the male-male or female-female MCEs - if I
>don't hear otherwise, I'll go ahead and delete these.
>
>Daphne
>
>Karen Drysdale wrote:
>
>>  Hello Babase Mailing List,
>>
>>  Dear Daphne,
>>
>>  We have a record of VUM c HEI on the 29/3/87.  Vum was only 3.5 
>>yrs of age at
>>  this date.  This data point should not have been collected and 
>>Susan wants it
>>  deleted.  Any comments?
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>
>>  Karen Drysdale
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