FYI. It seems the babase source code weighs in at about 4,239,360 characters. That includes the documentation which is about 2,805,760 characters and about 204,800 characters of conversion code. (But does not count code I wrote to debug the conversion as I went along.) Karl <kop at meme.com> Free Software: "You don't pay back, you pay forward." -- Robert A. Heinlein