[Babase] More vocabularly: PPA, Posgres, Babase, etc.

Susan Alberts alberts at duke.edu
Thu May 3 10:08:53 EDT 2007


Thanks Karl, I really like the idea of putting this vocabulary on the  
wiki. Lacey can you do this? This was very helpful Karl, thanks for  
continuing to educate us.
S

On May 2, 2007, at 4:34 PM, Karl O. Pinc wrote:

>
> On 05/02/2007 12:19:29 PM, kfenn wrote:
>
> There's been a lot of talk in the style of what's below, and the
> vocabularly just isn't right.  (Tabby need not feel put-upon.)
>
> The basic problem is that PPA is being used for the entirity of
> the new system.  It's like calling all the software on your
> computer "Word".
>
> I've tended to use "papio" for the entirity of the new system.
> I don't think this is necessarly best.  I'd like to use "Babase 2.0".
>
> So, the pieces would be:
>
> Babase 1.0/foxpro  --  The old system: it's programs and data,
>     including foxpro.
>
> Babase 2.0  -- The new system: it's programs and data, including
>     all the 3rd party software that makes it work.
>
> the database/Babase/the Babase data -- The data itself.
>
> Babase/the Babase programs -- The programs, database rules,
>    documentation, and all other stuff we wrote.
>
> papio -- The computer hardware (and maybe everything on it.)
>
> Postgres/PostgreSQL/pg -- The database software  (sometimes also
>   "the database" when it's clear in context we're talking software.)
>
> PPA/phpPgAdmin  -- The generic front end that allows access to a
>   Postgres database from the web.
>
> After that there's some minor pieces:
>
> the browser/firefox -- the web browser
>
> SQL -- the language.  Entered and run in PPA/the browser.
>
> The ranker  --  Tyler's ranker program.
>
> The VPN/OpenVPN  -- The VPN software
>
> the wiki/the Babase wiki -- the wiki content.
>
> moinmoin -- the wiki software
>
> the web site/the Babase web site -- All the Babase stuff you can  
> get to
>    over the web.
>
> The web server/Apache  -- The program that serves up web pages,
>   including the PPA pages, the wiki pages, the upcen and psionconvert
>   programs, and the static documentation pages.
>
> Maybe this vocabularly can go on the wiki?
>
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> To re-word:
>
>> Once the above changes/fixes occur, we have one more speedbump  
>> with FoxPro before we can move exclusively to PPA.
>
> Babase 2.0
>
>> The new files of "old"
>> census data that Jen Foreman has entered is in dbf form.  Karl  
>> says trying to do an upload of  this into PPA
>
> Postgres (via PPA and the upcen program, unless I write
> some magic program)
>
>> is not going to be
>> easy....the upload is best done in FoxPro.  I agree, but I can  
>> forsee that this update may generate a substantial number of new  
>> errors when we run through another conversion given that such a  
>> large bulk of data is replacing old data.
>> If we end up with a lot of new errors, Jeanne and Susan may need  
>> to make a call on how to proceed with the 06B update (that is,  
>> whether to use FoxPro or PPA
>
> Babase 2.0
>
>> , and how important this additional census data
>> is versus getting the 06B update done before my maternity leave  
>> starts).   Obviously, I can do the 06B update in FoxPro at any  
>> time.  Right now we are having problems doing uploads to the views  
>> in PPA,
>
> Postgres
>
>> and this is necessary for both the Duke and Princeton parts of the  
>> demog update.   Karl is going to work on solving the problem this  
>> week and we are all in charge of checking in with him about  
>> progress... however the new census-related errors need to be fixed  
>> in FoxPro before we can think about doing the demog update in PPA.
>
> (either "using PPA and the Babase programs" or "in Babase 2.0")
>
>
> Karl <kop at meme.com>
> Free Software:  "You don't pay back, you pay forward."
>                  -- Robert A. Heinlein
>
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Susan Alberts, Dept. Biology, Duke University, Durham NC 27708. Phone  
919-660-7272, Fax 919-660-7293. alberts at duke.edu



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